I know that Thomas doesn’t directly control his merch–that he can make suggestions and approve designs, but that he doesn’t make every single decision on it. I know that there are more average sized people in the world, I know his audience trends young and kids on average tend to be smaller, I know this is the world because of course it is, and it’s nothing new. I don’t blame Thomas.
But dammit, it hurts that the new merch for a series and a brand so based on acceptance and being okay with who you are centered around on a man who has *body image issues* has such a small range of sizes.
Just love getting reminded that for some people being gay is fine, so long as you aren’t fat.
Maybe call me a hypocrit, but he *does* have an XL hoodies and stuff….
oryoucandootherthingstoloseweightandthiscanmotivateyoubutthisisonlymeNot. Necessary. At. All. You’re just rubbing salt in the wound that Thuri and anyone else affected is allowed to feel. Also XL doesn’t necessarily mean it fits, body types vary wildly. Stretchy fabric makes things easier, but to drop $95 (sweater + shipping) on a maybe?
You right, you right.
I didn’t mean to talk shit about my friend’s S/O. So I’m sorry.
And I do feel you my fahm, I am myself a disproportional bean (who is dysphoric af most of the time) but I know that I do now everything I can in order to be fit and thinner, so maybe if I can others can too 🤷
I dunno though. Yall do whatever in your life, I get it that you are upset and all, I just wanna tell yall that fatness/thin-ness is one thing that you CAN change in your body, and if you really want it you can do it. Of course do it with a consultation of your doctor and dont hurt yourself inthe process, eat healthy work out and porsue your dreams.
Also, and this is a borderline copyright, if you are so desperate you can just create your own shirt/hoodie/whatever, it may be even cheaper than making a special order.
Again, I am sorry for being rude
@thagrinbery Okay…I need you to understand that what you’ve said here is not an apology. You’re still trying to preach an ideal to us as though we’re just stupid idiots who never realized that we should be eating fewer donuts and exercising more, and not only is that untrue, it’s not an apology. When you’re still trying to push your agenda, you’re not listening. And you’re certainly not saying you’re sorry, even if the words are there.
Your comments here are hurtful and fatphobic as hell. They’re also abelist as fuck. And whether you realize it or not, you’ve hurt more people with them–myself included.
“fatness/thin-ness is one thing you CAN change in your body, and if you really want it you can do it” –First of all, no. This is flat-out 100% untrue. It’s a myth perpetuated by a diet industry that does everything it can to sell people on a dream of thinness, but it’s not that fucking simple.
Losing weight isn’t a matter of willpower. There are physical conditions that prevent it. There are mental conditions that prevent it. There are financial conditions that prevent it. There are medications, genetic factors, metabolic factors, environmental factors, and dozens of other reasons people struggle with weight loss. And being told that it’s just because we don’t want it enough? That we aren’t trying hard enough? Or that we’re somehow stupid enough to have not figured out it’s something we’re supposed to be able to do? Is a fucking slap in the face.
I cry myself to sleep sometimes over how badly I want to be thinner. I am ashamed to visit my family. I have photo ops from actors I love that I can’t stand to look at because I’m so ashamed of how I look. I can barely stand to look at myself in the mirror. I pay double or triple for the clothing I wear (and believe me, it ain’t double or triple the cost for production or fabric for the sizes I need–it’s a fat tax). I struggle with meeting nutritional needs due to financial difficulties, and I struggle with exercise due to my disability. And in spite of all of this constant self-recrimination, I’m still told by everyone, every day, that I’m bad and gross and wrong and stupid for still being fat. I’m told by the media, by ads, by social pressure. I’m told by my family. I’m told by my peers.
The last fucking thing I need is to come online and be told by someone I’d considered a friend.
I know I’m coming down hard on you here, but this is not the first time you’ve made fatphobic remarks. I’m going to strongly encourage you to think about why it is you believe that a significant percentage of the population of the planet simply lacks the willpower, intelligence, or motivation to do what you claim is so doable. I’m going to ask you to think about who you might be hurting, when you start making claims like this one. I’m going to strongly recommend that you try to work on this, because your words are casually slicing into people who are already experiencing a death of a thousand cuts every god damned day. And I’m going to ask you to please not start making assumptions about what other people can or can’t do, because you have no idea what we might be going through or how long and hard we’ve struggled.
We know we’re fat. We know the world hates us for it, and most of us would give just about anything to be able to lose weight, but it’s not that easy. So forgive us for expressing disappointment that we can’t buy a goddamned sweater from someone we love and admire.
But stop deciding it’s our own fault. Or at the very least, if you can’t bring yourself to believe that, have the courtesy not to say so on our own posts.
LJ I saw your tags and you are not coming down hard this is all justified and you made so many points that I was and am too angry to articulate. And he isn’t listening he still doesn’t see it as wrong.
My mom starved me into an eating disorder for daring to have baby fat. She destroyed my metabolism (and new studies showed her own eating disorder likely changed my very DNA). I have very nearly cut contact with her before because of the way she tries to meddle in my life and my eating habits. We’ve had knock-down drag-out fights about my weight and how it’s not any of her fucking business. We’ve finally come to a place where we can exist together without being at each other’s throats about it, thankfully.
But she’ll pull this same shit. Where she pretends to apologize, but then shoves her point in anyway just so she can make it, then pretends to apologize again.
No. I’m not buying it. I’ve seen it too many times and I’m fucking done. An apology is “I’m sorry,” not “I’m sorry but here’s why I’m still right.” An apology isn’t a way to restate your own agenda. An apology is a way of acknowledging you’ve hurt someone, even if you can’t understand what you’ve done.
This is not an apology. And I’m not willing to let it stand as one. Not this time.